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There's less than a week of campaigning for the democratic gubernatorial primary candidates Mark Fernald and Bev Hollingworth and the contest is virtually a deadheat. According to a Concord Monitor poll with 300 likely Democratic primary voters the poll shows Senator Bev Hollingworth of Hampton beating Senator Mark Fernald of Sharon 38 percent to 34 percent, with a margin of error of plus or minus 6 percent. A whopping 28 percent remain undecided, according to the poll. Wednesday night granite staters will have a chance to hear more from the two candidates as they meet in a televised debate produced by WMUR-TV and The Union Leader, and also broadcast here on NHPTV at 7pm. In this program we profile both candidates. They are encore presentations of two reports we brought to you over the summer. In alphabetical order, we begin with Mark Fernald. |
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Soundup: Fernald campaigns Tape 3 39:12 "Nice meeting you." "I'm running because we need to find a fairer way to pay for schools so we can get away from these killer property taxes." Track: Mark Fernald likes to get right to the point. After all, it's something he's going to be doing thousands of times before the September primary. He's running for governor by trying to convince a state known for its anti-tax attitudes that an income tax can solve our problems. Bite: Fernald campaigns Tape 3 01:35:37 THIS STATE HAS HAD OPPOSITION TO BROAD-BASED TAXES FOR SO LONG, IT'S ALMOST REVOLUTIONARY WHAT YOU'RE ENGAGED IN. I always have to correct there - we have a broad-based tax. It's called the statewide property tax. Open your eyes. And it's part of my job to educate people where we are now. Track: Born in Keene and raised in Peterborough, Fernald got his law degree and worked for a time in Boston, but returned to New Hampshire 13 years ago. He soon concluded that the community values he grew up with in Peterborough had become endangered by the state's tax system. Bite: Fernald campaigns Tape 4 00:03:15 We had all walks of life in the same town we had the people who were working the lower paying jobs, the middle paying jobs, the higher paying jobs, and all working together. All educating their children together. And I think it's something we're losing in NH. We're losing it, at the risk of returning back to an old subject, because our tax structure has caused towns to recognize the children cost money. And they cost more money than the housing they live in will pay in property tax. And so we've been zoning against children and we've been zoning particularly against low income housing because that's where the greatest disparity between the cost of educating the children and the real estate taxes on the house exists. Soundup: Fernald campaigns Tape 5 45:36 ** mill shot - steam/smoke coming out of stacks - BRIEF AMBIENT SOUND - Soundup: Fernald campaigns Tape 5 39:02 "Mark Fernald, Democratic candidate for governor." "How do you do?" "I'm well - nice to meet you. Hope you vote on Sept. 10th." Track: Now living in Sharon, Fernald ran for state senate in 1998 proposing an income tax, and became the first Democrat elected from District 11 since the Civil War. Soundup: House income tax vote tape: 02;05:27 "the House will be attendant to the state of the vote. Track: In 1999, the Republican-dominated House actually passed an income tax bill, which then went on to the Democratic-controlled Senate, where it failed. Bite: Senate Education Debate tape 17:00:14 We now know that the income tax will not pass because of what the governor has promised to do and I believe she reiterated that this afternoon. Standup: Fernald standup tape 00:01:43 What Governor Shaheen promised was a veto on any income tax. So the legislature's closest brush with an income tax in decades came to an end. Mark Fernald responded by running against Jeanne Shaheen for the Democratic nomination for governor in 2000. Bite: Fernald campaigns Tape 4 00:10:10 There is no question if she wanted to sign an income tax, or let it pass without her signature it would have. Didn't happen. NEW TRACK: Fernald lost that primary bid, but got about 40% of the vote. He was then reelected to the Senate for his second term. NEW BITE: Legislature 5-22 tape #2 12:23:02 Thank you very much for serving with me and for all of the courtesies you have shown me over the past four years. Fernald campaigns Tape 1 00:01;04 ON AIR light goes on Fernald campaigns Tape 1 19:49 Phone lines are open 752-2312. Track: On a recent campaign swing through the north country, Fernald brought his message that a vote for him is a vote to cut property taxes. Soundup: Fernald campaigns tape 1 00:10:32 Here in Berlin, you have one of the highest property tax rates in the state. And it's a crushing burden. Soundup: Fernald campaigns Tape 3 01:33:00 "Hello, I'm Mark Fernald. Candidate for governor." "Phillip Grant, nice to meet you." "Nice to meet you." "You just out and about, doing a little …" "Yes, between newspaper interviews." Soundup: Fernald campaigns Tape 3 01:44:16 Flash photo of Fernald at Berlin Reporter "I'll get a couple of them." "All right." Soundup: Fernald campaigns Tape 2 01:01:15 Let's get going here. The Democrats need to win this election. One question. What's your position on choice?" "I'm prochoice." "Good. Thanks." Soundup: Fernald campaigns Tape 2 01:01:43 The needy people in our community should receive services. Bite: Fernald campaigns Tape 2 01:02:20 We know we've been cutting holes in our social safety net by shifting money out of social services and into education. And education's a great way to spend money, but we shouldn't and we don't need to make education and that social safety net compete for the same dollar. Soundup: Fernald campaigns Tape 3 01:44:45 car drives by empty store front Video: Fernald campaigns Tape 2 01:11:00 walks by Humphrey office and into Chamber of commerce Bite: Fernald campaigns Tape 2 01:25:23 I think the real concern is, where's the limit? Where's the cap… the fact that its just been steadily increasing over the past three years, I think everyone is getting the sense the state is looking at business as their… Yeah, cash cow, as their bank account to pick up the shortfalls, and it really doesn't make sense. Bite: Fernald campaigns Tape 2 01:26:35 Are you finding that business people have gotten to the point where, they're not just telling you what they're against but what they're for? Have they thought hard enough about this to think about what the solution is? I'm not sure. It's a complicated problem. Track: To sell his message, Fernald has become known for deploying some visual aids. Bite: Keough tape #3 Mark Fernald has a great chart, and I'm going to be able to draw it in my sleep if I attend too many more candidate forums with him. Bite: Portsmouth forum tape 1 07:19:40 Tobacco was $88 million, liquor and wine $89 million. The top line on this chart is property tax. 1 billion, $735 million. This is why we have a problem. It's about 2/3 of all the taxes we raise. Bite: Fernald campaigns Tape 3 01:40:45 "What's your plan?" "I think we need an income tax. Bite: Fernald campaigns Tape 3 01:41:10 "What's the percentage?" "Four percent, but that's after you take off 11,000 for yourself, 11,000 for your spouse, and 3,000 for each dependant." "Okay." "Let's say you make 50,000 a year, and you got two kids and a husband, you're only going to pay tax on 22,000. 4% - what's that? $880." "And your property taxes are going to go down in half?" "Yes, because we'll exempt you from the statewide property tax and we're going to provide additional aid for the schools so the local school tax goes down - and we have a 50% cut." "Hmm - I'll have to figure out the numbers." Track: Fernald also opposes a sales tax, warning it would cost the retail jobs. Bite: Rotary Club tape 01:28:11 Mark - he's only been there four years so he has time. When he catches up with me he can be governor. Track: Fernald's opponent in the primary, Sen. Bev Hollingworth, has criticized him for lack of experience and not getting bills passed in the legislature. Bite: Fernald campaigns Tape 4 00:12:55 What she was trying to say was that you talk all of this talk about taxes and campaign finance reform, but you haven't gotten them through. But the plain fact is in the last two year no democrat has gotten any significant piece of legislature through. That the republicans weren't going to let us have any victories, which is why it is a good thing that we are having an election this year. Soundup: Fernald campaigns Tape 2 01:30:50 "Education - that's big" "We've got to find a way to pay for it." Track: Fernald opposes vouchers since he says they would create unfair competition between public and private schools. Fernald campaigns Tape 4 17;35 I think a lot of the private schools want to avoid the special ed students, they want to avoid the poor students, they want to avoid the behavioral problems and dump all that on the public schools. And they would skim off the easy to educate students which is why I think vouchers are a problem because I think that's the ultimate outcome of vouchers. Track: When it comes to healthcare, Fernald warns there are serious limits to what any state can do. Bite: Fernald campaigns Tape 4 20:25 The idea that we've been discussing in NH - Maine seems to have found a formula to put it in place is to use the buying power of the state to purchase drugs in bulk at a savings, and then pass on those savings to people who do not have a drug plan of their own. I think it's a good approach - it's not going to save a lot of money, but it will save some. Soundup: Fernald campaigns Tape 5 00:30:20 So are we on 110 now? Track: Over the past year, Fernald has driven thousands of miles to campaign around the state. On this afternoon, he visited the Wausau paper mill in Groveton. Bite: Fernald campaigns Tape 3 01:48:20 People who at 65 were optimistic and confident and community-minded and supporting their schools become - scared, angry and vote against their communities. And that's what we do all across the state. That's what we gotta change. Soundup: Fernald campaigns Tape 3 01:51:37 they walk along "Does your pulp come in by rail?" "A lot comes by rail, some by truck." Soundup: Fernald campaigns Tape 3 01:57:43 ** "Democratic candidate for governor. Nice to meet you." Soundup: Fernald campaigns Tape 3 01:53:20 "all this really does - it's a big blender" Soundup: Fernald campaigns Tape 3 01:55:45 paper at other end being rewound - 10,000 pounds Bite: Fernald campaigns Tape 3 01:59:32 "And you're part of distribution?" "Yes." "Fill the orders and load the trucks and all that kind of stuff." "Been a great tour." Bite: Fernald campaigns Tape 4 28:34 I had a blast today, what about you? Bite: Fernald campaigns Tape 4 28:37 It was like, just run for governor so you can get inside some neat places like a paper mill. Like you said, boys and their toys. Soundup: Fernald campaigns Tape 3 01:56:36 Are these pipes where the steam comes in? Track: It's a small confession - that campaigning can be fun - so long as you keep your eyes on the prize. Bite: Fernald campaigns Tape 4 00:28:10 I think we need to change. To reform. And we can be a state where every citizen pays a fair share of the tax burden, every child goes to a good school, and every citizen in need is greeted by a caring community. That's what this election is about. Track: For NH Outlook, I'm Richard Ager. Fernald campaigns Tape 3 01:43:58 |
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Soundup: Hollingworth tape 5 02:05:35 Hi Father Angelo. Nice to meet you. I'm used to being behind the hot grills so if you need some help, just call me." "I appreciate that." Soundup: Hollingworth tape 2 52:25 "I'm Zack." "Zack, nice to meet you. You know, I used to own a restaurant so I know how hard you're working." Track: Bev Hollingworth takes politics personally - after all, events in her life have shaped her involvement in New Hampshire's political life. Born in Haverhill, Massachusetts, she moved to New Hampshire as a child when her parents opened a hotel in Hampton. Soundup: LPA 340 17:38:05 soundup of motel door creaking Track: Having been raised in the hotel business, Hollingworth only reluctantly decided to make it a career. Bite: Hollingworth tape 3 00:54:35 I married a hockey player, Canadian, and he decided that we needed to do more than just have the hockey income because naturally in those days it didn't bring in the kind of revenue or payroll that people have now because of hockey and so he wanted a summer business and so he kept telling me that we needed to go into the hotel business. Track: When her husband, Gordon "Bucky" Hollingworth, developed terminal leukemia, he asked Bev not to prolong his life with heroic measures. At the time, NH didn't recognize living wills. She recalled his request in this 1983 interview. Bite: LPA 340 17:37:50 …and should I be placed in a situation where I can no longer make decisions for myself and that my life is going to kept only going by machinery, then do not do that to me. Bite: LPA 340 17: 38:59 You're not thinking - they have said this is terminal and life will take its ultimate course. You're think by saying take him off that machine, that you are the one sentencing him to death. Track: After Gordon's death, Hollingworth worked as a patient advocate, joined in the protests over the construction of the Seabrook nuclear plant, and decided to run for the legislature. Standup: Bev Hollingworth led the fight to recognize living wills, which overcame a gubernatorial veto to become state law. With the exception of one term from 1994-96, when she was defeated by Bruce Keough, now also running for governor, Bev Hollingworth has been a member of the legislature for 20 years, 10 in the House and 10 in the Senate - at $100 a year. Bite: SO YOU'VE MADE OVER 2,000 DOLLARS…….absolutely, absolutely, oh I made even more than that. When I was president of the senate I got $25 dollars more a year…. Track: Hollingworth was elected to lead the Senate after the death of Senate President Junie Blaisdell in 1999. Elected with bipartisan support, she says it was a rare period of working together. Bite: Hollingworth tape 3 1:13:00 You didn't see 11-13 votes like you saw in this session. It was bipartisan votes, there were very few times, maybe three that would oppose, four that would oppose, but always reaching across the aisle to pass legislation. Soundup: Impeachment tape 14:23:22 We will vote on the articles consecutively one by one, without any delay or discussion in between. Track: Hollingworth presided over the impeachment trial of supreme court chief justice David Brock, which she regards as a great test of state govt. Bite: Hollingworth tape 3 1:15:15 I think it was very serious. The people didn't have faith in the judicial system because the process was closed and there was so much bitter words going on that people didn't know what the story was it was very clouded. And people who had had bad decisions, or decisions not necessarily bad but against what they wanted, were pointing at this as this is the kind of justice that we get. Soundup: Impeachment tape 14:28:34 The vote is 8-14 for acquittal. Track: After 17 days of trial proceedings, Brock was acquitted - to mixed reaction from the public and the House of Representatives. Bite: Hollingworth tape 3 1:16:15 They might not all have agreed with the vote or the outcome but they all agreed that the process had been fair and open and I think that's what's the most important piece that came out of it. Bite: Tape OL27 00:41:14 This plan fails to repeal the statewide property tax. This was a promise that was made to the public. Track: The Republicans regained control of the Senate in 2000 and Hollingworth lost her presidency, as well as budget battles over the state's tax system. Bite: Legislature 5/22/02 tape 2 12:17:34 We are a family. Bite: This year, she decided it was time to leave the senate and try for higher office, a decision also taken by her opponent Sen. Mark Fernald. Bite: Legislature 5/22/02 tape 2 12:17:55 …and I'm not going to say goodbye. I'm going to say I'll see you in January, and thank you very much. Video: Hollingworth tape 2 49:10 Putting the shirt on the poodle or 49:44 shirt is on - dog jumps up Soundup: Hollingworth tape 2 52:05 "Hi, Bev Hollingworth. Running for governor. Nice to see you young men. You're going to vote when you can. Make sure you do." Bite: Tape#:OL 60 01:19:44 We would make 100 million dollars if we put an income tax in today because right now the people who are working in NH and living in another state are paying the income tax to other states. Bite: Gubernatorial forum Tape 4 8:53:30 The constitution requires us to have a taxation that is fair and equitable and that means it should be based on the ability to pay. Those people who are millionaires in this state who are not paying their fair share need to pay their fair share. Soundup: Hollingworth tape 1 18:30 ** tight on man playing instrument - pan over to woman Soundup: Hollingworth tape 1 05:27 "Good morning George, it's very nice to see you." Track: Hollingworth believes fairness is a founding principle of our government. It is a theme she takes to forums and festivals around the state. Bite: Hollingworth tape 2 37:47 "Tell me how firmly committed you are to the sales tax or not - or the income tax." "I don't believe the sales tax does it. Unfortunately we already tax rooms and meals and a lot of things - grocery stores, anything that is to go is taxed. So a sales tax doesn't bring in enough. I believe you have to repeal the statewide property tax in total, and you have to replace it with an income tax." "You are strongly for the income tax?" "Absolutely." "Any difference between you and Fernald on that?" "Well Mark wants take and keep it on second homes. I say that perhaps that may be a choice, but it may not be cost-effective. When you look at a tax, you look for one that's easy to collect and right now I'm not sure that that does it Soundup: Hollingworth tape 1 14:35 **** "Good morning, oh excuse me." How are you, Bev Hollingworth. Nice to meet you." "Good day madam, John Taylor Gillman at your service." Soundup: Hollingworth tape 1 15:15 "Have you read Mr. Paine's pamphlet, Common Sense?" "Yes, as a matter of fact, I have. A long, long time ago." "Well, it was only published last year." Soundup: Hollingworth tape 1 16:40 "We should have a republican form of govt…. Track: New Hampshire's anti-tax history does not worry Hollingworth. Bite: Hollingworth newser tape 19:26 HOW READY DO YOU THINK THE STATE IS TO ENGAGE IN THE DEBATE OVER AN INCOME TAX? I think they're very ready. When you stop and realize what's happened to the state. We've really put quite a heavy burden on people and you have to remember when you did the statewide property tax, people kept saying it was a tax on communities. Well it's not. People pay taxes, not communities. Right now, people are suffering and young people are not able to live in the community in which they were raised, where they want to work. Soundup: Hollingworth tape 5 02;00;10 stirring the little calorie bombs around in the oil. Soundup: Hollingworth tape 5 01:59:35 shaking sugar on the lukamarias Soundup: Hollingworth tape 5 02:08:17 These look wonderful. Mmmm. Wonderful." Soundup: Hollingworth tape 1 25:38 "Health care is a challenge." "Oh, it certainly is, especially with what's happening now with the Medicaid being paid so badly. Track: Hollingworth points to accomplishments like the Medication bridges program she helped implement. Soundup: Hollingworth tape 1 26:53 "We just heard the figures for 2001, and we gave away $11 million in free drugs and served 7,600 people. Pretty good, for one year. Nice to meet you, and I hope you get the perfect bike. Track: And she has proposed a medical coverage alliance that would open to anyone who lives and works in NH. Track: With her granddaughters in hand, Hollingworth finds humor in the everyday absurdities of political campaigning,. Soundup: Hollingworth tape 1 29:35 "I'm reaching out and shaking everybody's hands. I'm shaking Julia and Claudia's." "Nice to see the next governor of NH. Welcome to Exeter." Bite: Hollingworth tape 5 1:48:00 GIVE ME A SENSE OF WHAT YOU THINK THE ELECTION IS ABOUT I think it's about fairness, I really believe that and I think most people recognize that. After September 11th people are ready to live up to the commitments they have. I truly believe that. I think nothing will demonstrate that more than what will happen on election day here. Track: For NH Outlook, I'm Richard Ager. Soundup: Hollingworth tape 2 45:40 "You're going for it." "We're going to win it - it's going to be a great race." |
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We want to remind you again that you can see the Democratic Gubernatorial candidates on the Granite State Debates 2002, produced by WMUR-TV and The Union Leader right here on New Hampshire Public Television begining at 7 pm. |
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As a part of our continuing coverage of the 2002 campaign, we are travelling around the state, in search of voter voices. In this report Chip Neal traveled to Lancaster and environs to find out what's on people's minds in the North Country. |
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voters voice n. country - Reporter Chip Neal visits the North country to sample the political landscape as the election approaches. He speaks with Edith Tucker of the Coos County Democrat who talks about the conservative tilt of the area except for Berlin. We also visit with life-long republican Tom Brady who runs the family owned Six Gun City in Jefferson. His concerns include solving the education funding crisis and building better roads in the north country. And we visited with Stan Holz in Whitefield. Stan owns the Village Gun Shop. His concerns center around bringing business into the area. He asks why there isn't a UNH campus up there. We also meet some people on the street who voice opinions about the campaign. People do not want to be lied to and they don't want a "dirty" campaign. |
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Next time on New Hampshire Outlook - We'll have highlights and analysis of the debate between Democratic Gubernatorial hopefuls Mark Fernald and Bev Hollingworth. |
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That's all for this edition of Outlook. Thanks for joining us. For all of us here at New Hampshire Public Television, I'm Allison McNair. We leave you on this back to school week with pictures of returning students at the University of New Hampshire. |
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Thanks to our founding sponsors who have provided major funding for the production of New Hampshire Outlook: New Hampshire Charitable Foundation Public Service of New Hampshire Alice J. Reen Charitable Trust Putnam Foundation Stratford Foundation |
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Tonight on New Hampshire Outlook. We'll have highlights and analysis of the debate between Democratic Gubernatorial hopefuls Mark Fernald and Bev Hollingworth. Tonight at 10 on New Hampshire Public Television. |
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NEW HAMPSHIRE OUTLOOK Air Date/Time:9/02/02 / 2200 HOST: Allison McNair Length: 8:30 In addition to a summary of the day's top New Hampshire stories, this edition of New Hampshire Outlook, NHPTV's nightly news magazine, included a profile of democratic candidate for governor Bev Hollingworth. PRODUCER/REPORTER: Richard Ager NAME OF PARTICIPANTS: Bev Hollingworth, D- Candidate for Governor |
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NEW HAMPSHIRE OUTLOOK Air Date/Time:9/02/02 / 2200 HOST: Allison McNair Length: 8:30 In addition to a summary of the day's top New Hampshire stories, this edition of New Hampshire Outlook, NHPTV's nightly news magazine, included a profile of democratic candidate for governor Mark Fernald. PRODUCER/REPORTER: Richard Ager NAME OF PARTICIPANTS: Mark Fernald. D- Candidate for Governor |